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I had four children under 12 years of age; the youngest was about 18 mths old. I went to sleep (husband asleep before me). Began to dream; in the dream I was at my meditation class; my meditation teacher was trying to get everyone settled down as we were meditating in a picnic ground. I got annoyed at how everyone wasn't concentrating. Then "The Teacher" (changed to a Christ-like person) took my hand in his (my left hand) and said "We have work to do". We began walking along a road leading away from picnic grounds. His hand was very real and very warm so I began to "wake up" and realize that this was no longer a dream. I have to say here that that hand holding mine was more real than any man's hand has ever felt to me. He pointed to the sky, which seemed to unroll like a huge tapestry, and I heard the most amazing sound - a sky full of angels singing (the most beautiful sounds and tones) - and they were singing my life. They sang my whole life (every life I've ever had on this world and maybe any other!) - and with their singing joy and anguish and remorse and total uplifting and self forgiveness (can't describe this!) went through the very core of my being - I could see that even the "dark threads" were part of the whole pattern - and the "angels" were triumphant and joyous for me and about me. I thought "they can't mean ME!" "I'm not perfect!" but they were celebrating the perfection that was me. So joyous. Triumphant. It seemed I had completed my tapestry and the whole of creation was singing in celebration.

Then we started traveling further along this road; I began to rise upward...mist began to form around me (my companion no longer seemed to be with me) - I pushed myself against the mist. I seemed to come down in a clear space in this mist. Now it gets strange. I became aware that a fierce light was coming straight down, arrowing for the top of my head. This light was Power, Light, something straight from (I hoped!) God. It was going to hit me right on the crown of my head, and I had enough time to get worried. I could hear it coming, and feel it. It sounded awesome. It struck me, (the way I imagine lightning would feel - HUGE EXPLOSION!!) and as I lost consciousness (during this conscious dream state) I seemed to split in two, like a dried out husk, and my last thought at this stage was "I didn't think this could happen during an astral experience [go unconscious!]"!! My "self" shrunk down to a tiny little light, and seemed to blink out. Next thing; I'm flying across a river, and land on a sea shore. (this portion felt more dream like). I look out to sea; over to the left not far from shore is a three-mast barque (that's what came to me, not sure if that's historically accurate). I decide to swim out to sea (can't remember why) but waves get too high. Turn back and head for the ship.

It is moored near a sandbar, become aware I'm towing my meditation teacher in a lifesaving crawl (this actually became symbolic of our relationship at a later stage). I left her on the sandbar, she slipped under water; I tried to keep her head above water, she slipped down again; I had to let her go. Now my attention is drawn to the ship and one of the portholes and I know I have to enter the third one from the right. I fly in and He is there. The most amazing being of light; radiance pouring out of Him, His face is Light and His hair is like flame (only not flame) and I am devastated, absolutely devastated, at the LOVE He has for me. (I have to stop and cry every time I think about this bit). I am not worthy. The Love from Him hits me right in the centre of me and I crumple, face to the floor. I love Him. Always. And He says "Marry me" "Marry me" twice. I am weeping and laughing (and my normal skeptical, fearful self is also there) and I answer "Yes I will marry you, as long as you are The Christ!" (because I'm not going to make any contract with any being of light no matter how fiercely stupendously beautiful It is) and He laughs. He laughs joyously and uproariously as though that's the funniest thing anyone has ever thought at him.

Then He says "Get rid of him" twice. I'm not sure of whom he speaks (but I suspect He means my ancient human attachment to the fallen one) and I agree. Then He speaks of the future (mine and how it is intertwined with the world's) - I am given quick packets of information which quickly became unclear, but I later recognize as they happen - and He says "Do not fear, I will always be with you". I am at His feet looking upward. I so long to touch Him that I try to reach up to His hands - He stretches them down to me and it seems as though a whole Universe (or a void) separates us; I give the greatest effort ever and - He clasps my hands in His. More devastation. These are the realest, most intensely alive, warmest, safest hands that have ever held mine. All my constant fear, pain, grief, sadness; all the negativity is completely obliterated with the power of His love and healing that flows down into my hands. For the first time in my whole life I feel safe. You cannot know what that meant to me, and means to me. I was safe. No-thing could ever harm me. I was loved. Completely, absolutely, without shadow, or doubt or question. I never ever wanted to let go of those hands. Ever. And then I started to gradually come back to my waking self; tears flowing down my cheeks, awake; lying on my back beside my sleeping husband, and for about 5 minutes I COULD STILL FEEL THOSE HANDS holding mine.

Wide awake, and He is still holding my hands. I was quietly weeping, and laughing and trying not to wake my husband. I was so excited. Once the hands faded, I got up and wrote it all down. I thought for many years it was the most amazing spiritual experience I ever had. And then I had a spiritual/psychic reader do a reading for me using palmistry and when she went to access my childhood years, she said "the child is dead"...and I realized that in 1989 I really had been reborn. In every sense.

Was the kind of experience difficult to express in words? Yes     The overwhelming REALITY of it; it was more real than any single second of my whole life has been.

At the time of this experience, was there an associated life threatening event?          Uncertain      I went to sleep as per normal, in my own bed. I started dreaming; the dream then changed into a lucid conscious experience. It was many years later before I realized that I probably died in my sleep (based on researching others' experiences). At that time I was experiencing very great physical fatigue, constant anxiety attacks, racing heart, palpitations and ectopic beat. About four years prior I had been very ill with influenza (which resulted in pneumonia, bronchitis, pleurisy and asthma. I broke two ribs coughing; at that time I was nursing a young child). I never seemed to entirely recover my health before this experience. Doctors seemed to think it was psychological; I never received any medication. After the "experience", all ill-health problems gradually receded.

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness?    Every time He held my hand. And when the "lightning" hit me. Actually most of the dream I was quite conscious; the only time it got "vague" was after the lightning sundered "me" and I flew through the mist, crossing the river. That particular portion was quite dream-like (apart from the very beginning).

Every part of it was also symbolic of my journey as well, but at the time I couldn't know that...it had to be experienced.

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal every day consciousness and alertness?    More consciousness and alertness than normal

If your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience was different from your normal every day consciousness and alertness, please explain:            I normally don't see anything through the crown of my head, but I could see that "lightning" coming at me through the crown! From directly above. Plus anyone who has ever had a lucid dream (or consciously astral traveled) knows that most impressions are cleaner, more vivid, more intense when conscious in a "dream". I was still thinking (mostly) as I normally do, but I was experiencing everything with the whole of me, rather than selected portions, if I can put it that way. Right this minute, being normal and awake, my awareness is on the typing keys and the screen, and remembering. Then I withdraw my hands from the keys, and become aware of traffic sounds and the hum of the computer, which I wasn't aware of before. During that particular astral/spiritual experience, I was aware with my whole self. Everything was incredibly vivid. I felt and saw and experienced Love. Light. with the whole of me. It was much more real than anything I have ever experienced, or am experiencing in normal waking life. Normal consciousness blocks out non-relevant stimuli. This "altered" consciousness during my experience seemed to enhance everything a hundred times. Very emotional.

Did your vision differ in any way from your normal, everyday vision (in any aspect, such as clarity, field of vision, colors, brightness, depth perception degree of solidness/transparency of objects, etc.)?  Yes     My perception seemed to be both from myself (like looking out of my eyes) and OF myself (as though I were both experiencing in the first person and observing, at least during the "lightning" strike episode).

Did your hearing differ in any way from your normal, everyday hearing (in any aspect, such as clarity, ability to recognize source of sound, pitch, loudness, etc.)?
            Uncertain      Apart from the amazing tonal "singing my life" experience, earlier in this spiritual (whatever you might call it) everything seemed to be communicated through thought. And the most amazing feeling.

Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?     Yes

What emotions did you feel during the experience?            Disbelief (they can't be singing about me!). Amazement. Absolute joy. Happiness. Elation. Relief. The most profound feeling of safety. Love. Real love. Worry (that Light is going to obliterate me...why?) Perplexity. Confusion. (who is it that I should shun?) More amazement. (He's asking me to marry him!) Desolation (I have not been worthy). Humility (He loves me anyway).

Desire - to serve unselflessly. Desire to be with Him always. To never leave Him again. Absolute loss (I've come back, I can't stay with Him). Excitement. Grief at separation. Loneliness since. Longing to go Home.

Did you pass into or through a tunnel or enclosure?          Uncertain      The fog seems to have been a demarcation line.

Did you see a light?           Uncertain      A highly unusual Lightning type light, yes.

Did you meet or see any other beings?           Yes     The first being was (to my mind) The Teacher. I felt only love, acceptance, safety with this One. The second being was Immense. Surprisingly biblical in sort of garments and appearance. The Light which streamed from Him was felt as Love. It was so bright I couldn't make out facial details but was somehow aware that there was Intelligence, Humor, Love shining out of those "eyes". Apart from a Universe of angels singing my life tapestry I didn't see any other beings (other than those mentioned in my earlier description).

Did you experience a review of past events in your life?    Yes     I did a life review in 1982, during a vivid dream experience. During that earlier "dream" I was shown my "book"; in that experience a lot of things were shown to me that I had forgotten (like a favorite toy I had carelessly lost as a child). In the experience recounted above, I was "shown" every single life I've ever had, and given the impression that my incarnation round had been completed. I found that difficult to believe at the time, and still do!

Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?          Uncertain      During my experience, I was towing my (then) meditation teacher to the sandbank (during the more dream-like sequence)...this was symbolic of how our relationship turned out. Though I tried to help her, she kept slipping back "into unconsciousness", which is what happened in "real life".

Did you see or visit any beautiful or otherwise distinctive locations, levels or dimensions?            Uncertain      The three mast barque (moored near the sandbank) seemed to be symbolical. It had a ladder as the main mast (for some reason I kept thinking "Jacob's ladder" but I still don't quite know what that means either.

I had the urge to enter the ship through the porthole, where the "captain" was (symbolizing the captain of my soul, I suspect!) My Spiritual Person had a sense of humor.

Did you have any sense of altered space or time?   Yes     This experience seemed to take quite a long time, (but as I didn't write down when I went to sleep) can't verify how long; at least two hours.

Did you have a sense of knowing special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?     Yes     I realized that God loves us all, no matter how "bad" we are. That our falls from grace, if I can call it that, are purposeful and have a reason which is good and perfect. That I am meant to be here, on earth today, because I have my own particular part to play, and that is good too. That the poles are going to go "topsy turvy" and that a hell of a lot of water is going to get displaced; that the Ring of Fire is going to sound the warning; that various parts of the planet are going to go under water very quickly; and some new bodies are going to appear in the ocean; that I am to look for "a change in the quality of light" meaning watch the sun and how it's affecting the magnetic field of the earth; (as I have predicted many years ago, it will impact on weather, crops, human immune systems; volcanic instability, earthquakes etc); that where there was plenty, people will starve, and die of thirst. Animals too. That our own governments will collapse, and turn in on themselves, trying to maintain an unsustainable status quo; that these same governments will turn on their own people, and are already doing so...that there is "otherworld" or "off world" interference, and some organizations/governments have sold their souls...That it is time to change, and to choose. That I have been "returned" to the physical because it's faster than reincarnating (that is, coming back to go through the infant/child/adolescent thing...in other words, I started a brand new life back in 1989; fast tracked.)

Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure? Uncertain      I had to push through the mist, till I reached a clear space. And after the Lightning strike, I easily crossed the river, which seemed to be a boundary marker.

Did you become aware of future events?       Yes
            Very accurate. I knew I could no longer stay with my then husband. It became intolerable. I knew that my next lover would be with me for only about 10 years. This was so. I knew that the next husband would be of Mediterranean descent (yet Australian) and what he looked like. This is so.

Insofar as world events go, everything I predicted as a thirteen year old (from many years prior to this related experience) has come to pass. Since this experience, things are still falling into place. Multinational corporations tying up food stocks (see Monsanto and the Plant Variety rights legislation), Gene patenting of every plant on the planet (also by Monsanto for example)...

Drastically changed weather patterns affecting crop production, particularly hybrid varieties (I have a copy of a letter sent in 1989/1990 to my local member of parliament predicting that we in Australia, if not the rest of the western world, would pay upwards of $25 per kilo for tomatoes no one wanted to eat)...I predicted in 1970 that we would pay for water. I was laughed at. I predicted that fuel prices would sky rocket, including diesel. My then father in law laughed at me. I predict that we will all rue the day we were born. And this within the next five years. It has already begun. I predict strange and unusual diseases, plagues, abnormalities, and aberrant human and animal behavior. (we are already seeing some signs) Sorry folks, no good news for a while yet. Personally, I'd much rather go Home!!

Did you have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience you did not have prior to the experience?     Yes     I became a spiritual healer, able to do "hands-on" healing. I studied and graduated in Natural Therapies, taught meditation, Toning (using the voice to heal) Aromatherapy. (and before this experience I was having over 25 anxiety attacks a day; could hardly go and get a hair cut, let alone lecture to 40 or 50 strangers and I had never been able to stand the tension of examinations, and went and studied solidly for over ten years, constantly taking exams!!)...and not an anxiety attack in sight! I became fit and healthy; not only studying full time, but practicing natural therapies, managing a family and a business. Pretty good for someone who couldn't make it from the bed to the door way without just about collapsing from chronic fatigue.

Have you shared this experience with others?         Yes     I shared this experience with my meditation teacher as soon as I could; probably the very next day.

I often told other meditation students about it. I was selective (I kept certain aspects private)...I stopped talking about it to anyone several years ago, as I felt that they really couldn't understand it. I have shared it with a few people who had also had similar spiritual experiences; but there haven't been many people whom I felt really understood, including my now ex-husband, the partner of 10 years who came along later; or my current husband. I feel the experience helped me help other people, but not necessarily by sharing it.

Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience?    Yes     I had been struggling with a fear of death since the age of 7; so as people wrote about it (I was born in 1954 so I had to wait quite a while to read about it!) I read whatever I could find. I haven't found anything which quite matches my experience. However, having that particular palm reader say, out of the blue, that the child is dead, really shook me up. (This reading came several years after the experience). I actually went into shock for a few days; I had always thought this experience was purely spiritual; I realized that it had also had a physical aspect...that is, I had died. (I shouldn't have been so surprised; at the age of thirteen I had written that I would not live past the age of 35, and this experience happened in my 35 year.  My friend since that age still has the copy of that "prediction" which also stated various things which would happen within Australia and the world). I don't think reading about NDE's prior to this influenced it in any way. I didn't meet any deceased relatives; I didn't travel through a tunnel of light. I wasn't strictly speaking Christian and I was definitively not religious. If anything I leaned towards Buddhism, and at one time thought I might be more "wiccan" because of my love for the natural world. Even after the experience, I didn't particularly relate to Jesus. I still don't. It is the Christ I relate to. I've never held to Christian doctrinal beliefs; even less so after this experience. The whole thing caught me by surprise; one moment I was having a vivid dream, the next thing I'm "wide awake", fully conscious in a dream state, and some extremely weird, never heard about things are happening to me, and what's more, His Lordness has a very strange sense of humor! (You can't imagine how wonderful it is to make The Boss laugh!) I didn't expect myself to be given the Tonal Vocal Red Carpet Treatment. I'd read bits of the Bible about "being ready for the bridegroom" but I hadn't taken it literally!!

How did you view the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened:            Experience was definitely real    It uplifted me. I changed drastically. I consciously remembered past lives and how they reverberated through my current life. I consciously accessed other people's past lives, and helped them understand themselves better, and live better now. I lost the anxiety of death. I lost the anxiety about LIVING. It was a shining light to guide my life by. It made me a better person than I had been.

Were there one or several parts of the experience especially meaningful or significant to you?            Every part of it. From beginning to end. But particularly the "interview" with the Christ. That was the highlight. Nothing has ever come close. No man, woman, child, cat or dog could ever love me as He does. I constantly aspire to love everyone and everything as He does, and I constantly fail. I've learnt to live with that grief. But I'll keep trying.

How do you currently view the reality of your experience:            Experience was definitely real    I long to re-experience that feeling of being Home. Being safe. Being Loved. It is still as real to me as when it happened. Every time I recount the meeting with the Christ on the "ship", I weep inconsolably. I cannot talk to anyone about it without choking up. I have felt angry sometimes, because I came back. But I do not regret the experience. And I don't really regret coming back, because I will serve my purpose.

Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your experience?           Yes     Yes, I am conscious constantly of the God within all beings. Sometimes I become impatient with myself and my apparent lack of progress; then I remember that I was shown the "hosts" of heaven rejoicing in my life, and I find acceptance of myself, and therefore others, again.

Have your religious beliefs/practices changed specifically as a result of your experience?           
Yes            I meditate. I pray. Everyday.

Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?         No

Is there anything else you would like to add concerning the experience?         
I hope it's not a "once in a lifetime" thing! And I would like to find someone else who has had something similar happen to them.

Did the questions asked and information you provided so far accurately and comprehensively describe your experience?         Yes     It was very thorough. Because I wasn't aware of "dying" (I went to sleep) there was no awareness of separation of consciousness, except during the "lightning" strike event. As previously stated, I went through a life review a few years earlier, which was also weighing on my mind before this event happened. There were also other things that happened a few months leading up to this event, but they take a bit of explaining too, and only became obvious with hindsight.