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Experience description:   

I was giving birth to my first child and I was about 7-8 centimeters dilated.  I had a spinal block and Darvocet but it was obvious to me that I was going to do this alone. This is hard to explain how the "me" that I know can be in two places at one time.  How my body can be in one place and "who I am as a person" can be in another place.  It is  hard to explain how I could look down on my body without (1) recognizing it as mine and (2) not immediately questioning why I was up on the ceiling.  It is difficult to explain how as soon as I asked "what the heck am I doing  up here" I immediately sensed a presence or a something I cannot explain above to my right and as I turned to look, I was immediately back in my body experiencing pain.  It was only after when I had a chance to reflect that I realized that whatever was to my upper right, I would have followed unquestionably and I believe it is the reason why I was not "allowed" to see.  I also realized that as I was returning to my body, I was not doing so for myself but for the child that had to be born.  

All of this happened within seconds, milliseconds, a measurement of time that does not exist in the natural world.  What you see and what you think and what you feel is what I would equate with what the speed of light must be like while at the same time in suspended in time.  ( I realize this does not make sense as it should not because it does not adhere to our KNOWN law of physics.)  The visual picture of what was taking place below me stood still in time, almost in suspension but my thoughts and my feelings and whatever actions took place  where in another place and time.  In my second OBE, I had gone to the movies with my husband and felt extremely uncomfortable in the theatre as if someone was watching me.  I was uneasy, turned around often, scanned the theatre for familiar faces or some clue of why I was so uncomfortable.  We watched the movie and forgot about the uncomfortable feelings.  In the way home I told my husband how I felt before the movie  began.  Nothing more was said. 

It was 11pm and my husband wanted to go to sleep.  I was tired but not sleepy.  I laid down next to him, had enough time to think about my day when all of the sudden, I hear a loud thump!  I realize that I had left my body and the thump that I heard was my head hitting the ceiling.  I then proceeded to "fly" around the house at ceiling level as if I were a fly.  The buzzing was deafening!  I was terrified not that I was out of my body but that I was flying to fast, making very sharp  turns within inches of hitting a wall.  This went on for some time.  I was in two place at the same time.  I was in bed terrified and flying at the same time.  This OBE was different from the first because I never left my body for more than a split second.  I hit the roof and I split in two.  One of me went back to bed with me and the other was frantically flying around the inside of my house.   It would leave the bedroom, make it's  rounds (I was seeing and feeling all of this) and then return to the bedroom and start all over again.  On the second or third attempt I asked it to stop.  It did not.  I began getting scared because of the incredible speed I was fling  with then suddenly my mind told me that all I had to do was to separate the me that was laying down to the me that was flying.  I realized I had the body and the flying one did not.  I waited until it returned to the bedroom, made it's round in the bedroom and zoomed out the door  I quickly got up from the bed, my legs were like Jell-O.  It took an enormous amount of energy and effort to make it to the bedroom and shutting the door thereby not allowing whatever it was not have to the ability to return to its point of origin.  It scared me to death.   I wish never t experience this kind of OBE Every again in my entire life.  I do not know where I got the idea of getting up and closing the door but I can assure you, the idea did not come from this terrified  mind.

Any associated medications or substances with the potential to affect the experience?     Uncertain            I had an epidural during childbirth and Darvocet but do not considering either drug to be hallucinatory or have the ability to create the experience I underwent.  During the second OBE, I had no medications or substances.

Was the kind of experience difficult to express in words? Yes    

At the time of this experience, was there an associated life threatening event?          No      

What was your level of consciousness and alertness during the experience?           heightened sense of alertness and consciousness to the point that every detail of this story has never once changed since.

            Was the experience dream like in any way?   not in any way, shape or form

Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?     Yes     The first separation during childbirth was gentle or perhaps I failed to pay attention but the second one was noisy almost to what the cork of a champagne would sound like;  like a wine bottle

What emotions did you feel during the experience?            confusion at first and then no feelings, just taking it all in until asked what I has doing in on the ceiling, then confusion and then peace.  I knew I would not fall.

Did you hear any unusual sounds or noises?           1st OBE - no noise     2nd OBE - a loud overpowering buzzing sound not the buzzing of bees but more like the buzzing of 100 flies.

LOCATION DESCRIPTION:  Did you recognize any familiar locations or any locations from familiar religious teachings or encounter any locations inhabited by incredible or amazing creatures?    No response      I was familiar with the hospital room and during my 2nd OBE, I was familiar with my house just not at the height of 8 feet

Did you see a light?           Uncertain      No I did not see a light but was CERTAIN that was the presence I felt to my upper right

Did you meet or see any other beings?           No       no none

Did you experiment while out of the body or in another, altered state? No       I did not try this

Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?          No      

Did you notice how your 5 senses were working, and if so, how were they different?          Yes            highly functioning

Did you have any sense of altered space or time?   Yes     I had a sense of an altered something.

Did you have a sense of knowing, special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?    Yes            sometimes

Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure?             Yes     OBE 1 -  Their presence to my upper right

OBE 2 - the ceiling of my house

Did you have any changes of attitudes or beliefs following the experience?   Yes     that life does not end in death.  That we are NOT our bodies

How has the experience affected your relationships? Daily life? Religious practices? Career choices?       I am reminded that I were to lose  of my children before one of them buried me that the waiting would be unbearable but perhaps by then, we would have invented like heaven mail.

Has your life changed specifically as a result of your experience?         Yes    

Have you shared this experience with others?         Yes     What emotions did you experience following your experience?        awesome.  What an awesome G-d we have!

What was the best and worst part of your experience?      the best was having been chosen out of many an the worst was having to choose between staying or giving birth to my son

Is there anything else you would like to add concerning the experience?        if you do not fear death, who might you be afraid of?

Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?         No      

Did the questions asked and information you provided accurately and comprehensively describe your experience?               No