Donald M's Experience
My husband goes to bed at night and when he relaxes two things can happen: fall asleep until the next day, or a journey out of his body (also called OBE for short, which stands for Out of Body Experience). This happened in the past as an average of once a week, and currently about once every 10 months.
While he is still aware of his body, he starts feeling noises, and cannot move (even if he wants to move to "wake up"). His fingers and extremities move involuntarily every few seconds involuntarily. In his mind, he explains, he "rolls" out into the air and suddenly he is seeing his own body down below where he is at now (at about one meter above his body) and he can also see me (my body) sleeping. He can see his body sleeping. He can see himself as with a huge brilliant light. Now, he knows and is fully aware that he is out of his body again, as in his childhood. He can decide to go wherever he wants and decides to check on the kids first to make sure they're all fine. To do this, he just thinks and travels through the walls and in a fraction of a second he's in the children's room. He can go outside but he is scared, so he decides to stay at home looking at things. It doesn't' mean that he has not gone outside but usually he prefers to stay. One day, he went to see a friend with whom they were talking about visiting at night, traveling in spirit only. He went and mentally asked him to go with him. He got so scared that turned around and wrapped himself with the covers yelling "leave me alone!." My husband didn't want to scare him, so he left. The following day this friend told everybody that Donald was a witch type of person and left town for good.
He can see the light in every person. He has seen the light of all our family members in their bodies during their sleep when he was in the "journey." He has also seen only lights (without body) in the same dimension. Some of them were felt by him as negative (dark cloud-like lights) and positive (light yellow, or silver colors) perceived by him as positive or "good" souls.
There have been so many
times that he had these experiences that he feels he can go anywhere, including
at the other side of the universe in an instant of a second, just by thinking.
But, he is very scared of not being able to come back, so, he doesn't even try.
Was the kind of experience difficult to express in words? No It wasn't difficult to express because it didn't involve any traumatic experience since OBE is a regular experience for him but very interesting.
At the time of this experience, was there an associated life threatening event? Uncertain The only life threatening part was when he (my husband) was in "there" (in that "place" or landscape) he saw "beings" that looked like lights (light and dark ones). He himself was a like he describes a ball of light. He was scared of the dark ones because he "knew" or sensed they were "bad." He didn't know how bad, but definitely bad or negative. He was scared that "they" may take over his (my husband's) body.
At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness? At all times, he knows he is conscious about what's going on. He knows all the time that he is in a "journey." He even tricked himself to see if it's a "journey" or real life.
How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal every day consciousness and alertness? Normal consciousness and alertness
At all times, he knows he is conscious about what's going on. He knows all the time that he is in a "journey." He even tricked himself to see if it's a "journey" or real life.
Did your vision differ in any way from your normal, everyday vision (in any aspect, such as clarity, field of vision, colors, brightness, depth perception degree of solidness/transparency of objects, etc.)? No
Did your hearing differ in any way from your normal, everyday hearing (in any aspect, such as clarity, ability to recognize source of sound, pitch, loudness, etc.)? No
Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body? Uncertain
What emotions did you feel during the experience? Mostly scared.
Did you pass into or through a tunnel or enclosure? No
Did you see a light? Yes Sometimes he sees lights passing by; he perception of these lights are "beings." He sees himself as light too. He can see his body laying down in the bed "sleeping" by my side (he sees me too). Some lights are darker, others lighter. He "is" mostly lighter than dark. In other words, he says, his light is lighter than most "lights." Only a few are light than his. He says he has seen our "lights" emanating from our bodies, as we sleep. Since he has OBE and not NDE, he has not experienced the light at the end of the tunnel, or the "tunnel-like" visual image.
Did you meet or see any other beings? Yes "They" (the lights, darker or lighter than him -or lighter than his light) were passing by. Once, three dark lights (like the dark clouds but more brilliant) were coming toward him. He got so scared because he perceived them as "bad" and thought that they might take over his physical body. So, in an instant (thought) he came back to his physical body.
Another time, he went to a friend's house and while he was sleeping, he called (mentally called) him. Days before they have agreed that my husband would call him to go together to this "journey." When he called him, he was so scared that he left town and never spoke to my husband again, saying that my husband was a kind of witch or so.
Other than the "lights"
he sees, he has never encounter another being but he says he knows he can go
anywhere he wants. It's only too scary to try, so he wanders around the house or
in our street.
Did you experience a review of past events in your life? No
Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later? Yes One time, when he was a young man (in his 20s) he had an experience where he went downstairs and saw his aunt reading a letter that he had not read. He read the letter and the following day he told his aunt that she had received a letter and that he knows everything what was in that letter.
Another time, he went
to see our children sleeping on the floor below our room, while in the
"journey." One of them was waking up and my husband "knew" he was in trouble and
that he was going to go upstairs to his parents (us) for help. My husband wanted
to help him; but knew that he was in a spiritual realm and had to go back to his
physical body, wake up, and get up to help him. Muy husband could verify that
our son was scared and needed support because he got up to help him and knew
what was going on with him before our son reached our room upstairs.
Did you see or visit any beautiful or otherwise distinctive locations, levels or dimensions? Yes Yes, but he is too scared to go too far, so wanders only in the house and rarely goes out to the street. Also, he "knows" or has the feeling that he CAN go to another parts of the universe in an instant; but, he is too freaking scared :) !!!
Did you have any sense of altered space or time? Uncertain He says everything is the same but his body is different. He is a light and the way he moves through space or to different places is by just "thinking" about the place. Also, he can go THROUGH walls, water, etc., just in a fraction of a second. So, time and space IS altered.
Did you have a sense of knowing special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose? Uncertain He perceives people as "good" or "bad" in two ways: (1) by looking at their color (lighter are good, darker are bad), and by a sense of feeling of -or sensing- their intentions (good or bad) when he first looks at them, passing by, or coming toward him.
Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure? Yes Yes, he could cross walls and go at incredible speeds, where ever he thought (wanted) of going.
Did you become aware of future events? Uncertain
I knew some things were going to happen and they happened later in real life.
Did you have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience you did not have prior to the experience? Uncertain No, but my husband has special qualities that most people do not have.
Have you shared this experience with others? Yes Yes, my husband has told me his experiences during all the years of marriage (18 years), and I believe him because I noted his movements when he starts having a "journey." I also believe him because he is an honest man with me, and we are uncommonly close to each other. I say "uncommonly" because I have never seen any couple so close to each other than us. We like each other company and we go together (98%) everywhere, but to work.
Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience? Uncertain What he (my husband) has/had are called, O.B.E. (Out of Body Experience) and never had a NDE; thus this question should be answered as NO, supposedly. So, I know he is not lying about this and he is consistent in the content and the experience, without changing his descriptions.
How did you view the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened: Experience was definitely real He insisted, after I asked him more than once this same question, that "everything is the same, as real as real life" but in a different body (as light).
Were there one or several parts of the experience especially meaningful or significant to you? I think each of these experiences has had an impact on him, enhancing his spiritual beliefs and becoming more interested each time in the non-physical influence (of constructive thoughts) over the physical realm.
How do you currently view the reality of your experience: Experience was definitely real He says that the reality during the "journey" is as real as the one he experiences when totally awaken during day.
Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your experience? Uncertain Under my personal perception (as his wife and not the "protagonist" of the experience), I think he has becoming extremely closer to me as years passed. He has become even more conscious about my needs in all aspects of my life, and those of the kids. He is very caring and consciouss about everything, compared to his life in the past that was more emphasized with lack of: responsibility, awareness of other's suffering or pain, etc.
Have your religious beliefs/practices changed specifically as a result of your experience? No
Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience? No
Is there anything else you would like to add concerning the experience? I, as a external observer (his wife), wanted to say that everywhere we have touched this topic, we have encountered only a few people being able to have these experiences, and what have been even more interesting, is that these experiences have been way much less often in other experiencers than in my husband.
The other thing that I would like to add, also as an observer, is that he is a person with special qualities difficult to find in other regular people. For example: Donald has never studied the guitar in a professional way, but still he can reproduce (with a good accuracy) the play of famous guitarrists, such as Narcisso Yeppes, John McClaughin, Al Di'Meola, Paco De Lucia, etc.
Another example, is that he has never been in a tennis lesson, and every time he is seen by other instructors (our kids' instructors, or friends) he is recognized and comment: "I have seen many people who play good tennis, but you, Donald, are extremely good. You can play with the pros and win."
A third example, is that he is not only good at Basketball, all his peers and friends who have seen him play Basketball have said that Donald can do things that only Michael Jordan, or Shack can do, or even they say that not even "they" can do. Amazing things. He was in the National "Liga" of his country but never wanted to continue. He still plays very good at 50 years old. And I'm not talking about a one-time amazing acrobacy or two, but a consistent behavioral pattern in this sport field.
An additional example is that I don't have anybody who can beat him in Chess. He is a Security Officer and a student. Even his "big bosses," in his company, Comcast Cable, have asked Donald -in an ogoing basis- to play chess with them and have never been a time that they win: it's always Donald the one who wins. And I'm talking about people who are Millionaires, the different Presidents of the Comcast Cable company, also Charles Schwab, etc. They always ask Donald to play chess, or tennis (he denies Tennis because it takes time; but, Chess is played during his work time).
These are only some of his qualities that I observed about him and may be related to his experience of OBE. But, my most amazing impression of him is his overall intelligence. I don't know if the O.B.E.s have anything to do with this but Donald has an overall intelligence above the normal range, I would say. Donald can grasp difficult and complex ideas at first exposure, and can then process and organize the ideas to paraphrase them in an uninterruptible speech. And talking about speech, he can give an impromptu speech without preparation, and almost no flaws in front of a huge audience. Donald can understand all concepts, including those difficult ones, in a first summarized lecture, without taking notes and give a test with 100% accuracy without having read any chapter of a school textbook. He has done this at the Community College of Denver and has a 3.6+ GPA, and never read the book, only listening to the teacher and listening or reading information as personal interests only. This way he passed Physics, Psychology, Mathematics, etc. Back in Chile, he was the honored (verbally) by his teacher, Dean of the Department of Physics at the University of Chile, in Chile (South America) as the ONLY smartest student that had the notion of the concepts of Physics. He never studied, he only listened to the lectures. He had the highest grades in Physics. He studied four years at that university. He can easily read Stephen Hawkins and understand everything. He knows about the String theory, entanglement, superposition, parallel universes, quantum unification, and is capable of solving high degree mathematical equations, like operators, etc. He has explained me the Schroedinger Theory, and universe laws of Physics (Newton & Quantum Physics), etc. He is not only knowledgeable in the science of Physics or Mathematics, but also has a wide range of information in his brain about History, Psychology, Healing, Politics, etc., etc. He is very interesting and fun to be with, and I think this is due to his special qualities and high intelligence.
You may -logically- ask why he has not finished any of his studies. Well, his mother abandoned him and his father did the same. His parents had him when they were both 15 years old. So, he was raised by people who (severely) lack the sense of responsibility and he applied this destructive behavior. But, later in life, he learned the hard way and has become a responsible man, a good example for his children. Now, he works and goes to school, and takes good care of his family of five children, including one with a disability.
His level of
performance at work, in school, and at home (as a husband, and father) is high
Did the questions asked and information you provided so far accurately and comprehensively describe your experience? Yes It's important to clearly state two things. One, the experiences are not NDE but OBE (Out of Body Experience), and are not related to any specific event but it is an ongoing experience. Two, the accounts have been described not by the experiencer but by his wife who have not experienced OBE.
Are there any other questions we could ask to help you communicate your experience? I think that a NDE may or may not have an OBE, but an OBE does not necessarily have a NDE. In my personal case, additional to that of my husband, I only experienced one time an OBE and it was the result of an accident.